England 2-3 Croatia

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Do you...

a) think it's time for a change?
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b) think the FA should stick by McClaren?
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c) not give a rats-bum about England. If so why you reading this thread?
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England 2-3 Croatia

Postby Ian Livesey » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:37 am

What do you think?

I think this result didn't knock us out, it was the home 0-0 against Macedonia and the Israel 0-0 away that eliminated us. Had we won just one of them we would've qualified a point ahead of Russia.

I think it's time for a change, McClaren should be axed and a new coach be brought in. It's 10 months before our next competitive game, that's enough time for the FA to go out and make the right choice in a coach than the rush job when appointing McClaren.
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Postby Ian Livesey » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:51 am

PS. one good thing to come out of this... There wont be anymore of them cheap plastic car flags next summer!
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Postby petermarkcraig » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:47 am

Out with Maclaren.........serves him right fro nicking all Ferraris tactics :wink:
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Postby YOUNGZAC » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:20 am

the chosen one is a must!

break the bank again (just like with sven) :lol:
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Postby Ian Livesey » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:35 am

Well he's gone
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Postby ClaytonLad » Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:31 pm

Thank God, McLaren has gone. I think Brian Barwick should be off down the road with him too. It was he who chose him in the first place.

At least this time, the FA won't be announcing a new manager just before a major tournament. To appoint McLaren when they did was just pure stupidity.

This time, at least, there should be time for them to pick and choose who they want and more importantly who is right for the job and somebody who has some tactial nouse about them.
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Postby Jue » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:20 pm

Luiz Felipe Scolari is a possible and many other good names, think about jose mourinio.
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Postby ClaytonLad » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:00 pm

We need a proven manager who has actually won trophies in his managerial capacity.
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Postby Jordan Monks » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:08 pm

i think you will fink jose mourinho will 100% be the next manger o england. put ur life saving on that bet at 4/1. i guarantee it.
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Postby Gobsmacked » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:34 pm

Jeff wrote:The problem any England manager/coach has is the increasing number of foreign players in the Premiership. It won't be long before an England squad is composed solely of players from the premiership and consequently they will not have the experience of playing in international competitions at club level. Having said that McClown was not the right man for the job. Steve Coppell maybe.


I see where Jeff is coming from, but the problem is that England didn't qualify for major competitions before the influx of foreigners.

I was born in late 1959, so I can't remember the 1962 and 1966 World Cup and can only barely remember the 1970 tournament. England failed to qualify in 1974 and 1978, so the first World Cup that England took part in that I can really remember was the 1982 tournament, when I was going on for twenty three years old. As if that wasn't bad enough, they failed to qualify again in 1994 and also failed to qualify for the Euro Championships in 1976 and 1984. There were few foreigners around during these years.

The problem is that England is a footballing minnow that has been built up way beyond its importance by some really clever marketing from the F.A. Someone has already mentioned the flags, but look at the sales of England shirts when they have managed to qualify for any tournament - they are sky-high - everyone is wearing one and for what? The England shirt boasts a star which is to denote that they once won a World Cup, but what right have we to bragging rights when Brazil have won 5, Italy 4, and the Germans 3, not to mention the Argies and that massive footballing nation (not) Uruguay who have both won one more than England.

The simple fact is that England enter tournaments for no other reason than to make up the numbers. They haven't a hope in hell of winning anything in most of our lifetimes in spite of all the clever promotion by the F.A. Let's face it, to most people under 40, another massive footballing nation (not) Greece have been more successful in international competition that England, certainly while they have been alive. I think it's time that all Englishmen (and women) woke up and smelt the coffee.
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Postby Ian Livesey » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:46 pm

Q. What's the difference between Lewis Hamilton and the England football team?

A. Lewis Hamilton still has McClaren
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Postby ClaytonLad » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:09 pm

Thank God England don't!
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Postby Jue » Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:30 pm

Ian you aren't that smart to think of that one who told you?
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Postby Magpie in Exile » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:07 pm

At the risk of saying "I told you so" (Although I didn't tell you lot) I did wonder why Sven was hounded for "only" getting to the quarter finals of three major tournaments... :roll:
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Postby Jue » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:17 pm

it was what he said about the players, in the paper.
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Postby Gobsmacked » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:04 pm

The England football team is changing the emblem on the shirts.

The Three Lions will become the Three Tampons to signify the worst f**king period in its history.
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Postby mark » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:32 pm

Completely agree with Gobsmacked's posts. I hope a few of the overpaid and overrated players follow McClaren out of the door. However it will take a strong coach to drop the underperformers. Scolari would be my first choice as he has recent experience of working with overrated players at Brazil and Portugal and whipping them into shape. No need to rush into an appointment though - it would be wiser to wait until after Euro 2008 and see who is available then.
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Postby mark » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:48 pm

Just found this Early Day Motion tabled by Roger Godsiff MP for Sparkbrook, Birmingham. Well worth a read.
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Postby petermarkcraig » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:54 pm

mark wrote:Just found this Early Day Motion tabled by Roger Godsiff MP for Sparkbrook, Birmingham. Well worth a read.


Hear hear!!!
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Postby Ian Livesey » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:54 pm

Sums it up well I think. Aye's to the right.........
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Postby Horwich RMI » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:22 am

I've just won a Croatia shirt on ebay. 8)
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